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Igenlode Wordsmith ([personal profile] igenlode) wrote2023-02-16 10:28 pm
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"Marie Antoinette"

It's looking as if[] they are going to go through Marie Antoinette's entire life, rather than just creating a 'teen couple try to make arranged marriage work' drama... which means that this could get a good deal darker than I was expecting :-( The show was up to the stated year 1780 already at the start of this episode, and we have to be then at least a year or two later by the end of it, which is getting into 'dangerous' territory. We already had ironic hints this week about how "you too will grow old and ill, Sire"; as we know, he very notoriously won't...!

† One of the things about watching 'live' television as opposed to a boxed set is that, as when watching live cinema, you genuinely have no idea how long it is going to go on for. I've lost track of how many episodes we're on, but it is already more than the usual BBC drama serial, which clock in between three ("Sherlock", "Vienna Blood") and half a dozen ("The Outlaws", "Chloe"), and you never know whether the next one is going to be the finale (as I honestly thought last week's episode was) or not! I've never forgotten the astonished experience of watching "Butch Cassidy & the Sundance Kid" and discovering that the doom-laden climax of the chase actually isn't the end -- and not even the actual eventual ending could take away from the miracle of that :-p

As I mentioned previously, I have deliberately avoided looking up the bits of history with which I'm unfamiliar (which is quite a lot of it, with the exception of the Chevalier de St-Georges). So while I knew that the French supported the American revolt (hence the involvement of Lafayette, Talleyrand, etc.), I had absolutely no idea that they were actually at war with England in the 1780s, nor that they fought an apparently (although doubt is cast on this at the end of the episode) successful naval action in the Channel!

My instinctive sympathies remain with the 'Boy King', Louis, although the device of having him write down his thoughts in his diary for the benefit of the audience rather grates... but of course, this is done because he tends not to helpfully confide them to anyone. As one doesn't :-)
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[personal profile] cosette_giry 2023-02-17 11:08 pm (UTC)(link)
I'll admit I've been purposefully avoiding the TV series since it seems to be yet another attempt to take a historical woman and have her act and think like a 21st century woman for... no reason at all apart from an attempt to be "hip with the kids". It's not even that I mind a feminist lens for studying history (it has benefited re-examining Augustas from the Ancient Rome era or Henry VIII's six wives... although I have a lot of opinions about Six the Musical and not a whole lot of them are a compliment), but I do find it a little condescending that some showrunners think people wouldn't be able to understand the setting if it wasn't for those very obvious winks. I'm fine with, say, The Great given it's very satirical and self-aware about it, and Sofia Coppola's film about Marie-Antoinette also went that way, but the fact that it was very stylistic saved it from being a complete disaster.

And then again (and I say this with respect :P), I don't like most British/American attempts at picturing French history/literature apart from a few exceptions, so maybe I would get annoyed either way :P